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05 Sep 2015 14:10:24
Its been widely reported in the media that Juventus accepted a 62Mil bid from Chelsea only for Pogba to turn the move down.
This conflicts with what Edoo2 reported IE an agreement couldn't be reached with the clubs.
As The Ed has proved many times over the years
i think the media are wrong and the Ed is right.
{Ed002's Note - What I said was "All that really happened was that Chelsea were unable to reach agreement over Pogba - and there is no point getting in to detail". The discussion involved representatives from both clubs and two representatives of the player (albeit one was not there on Monday - but had been the previous Thursday). I don't know what the papers have said on the matter.}
1.) 05 Sep 2015 19:05:29
Thanks Ed, as you say the detail does not really matter anyway.
25 Aug 2015 17:08:23
According to ssn, Stones has just put in a transfer request.
1.) 25 Aug 2015 18:16:37
ok stones wants off,think your looking at 40-50 million.we are masters at getting top dollar for players.we don't do cheap
2.) 25 Aug 2015 18:25:45
Thought you lot said he didn't want to go
3.) 25 Aug 2015 18:26:47
Doubt it. If he is that determined on getting out, we could bid lower and still get our man. Stones panicked after the Garay reports. £28m probably writing off the rest of the Lukaku debt in the process!
4.) 25 Aug 2015 18:48:29
everton decide the price,we can always say no.i would say 50 mill or go away,if david luis was sold for 50 mill,stones is worth 50 mill.think he will be a bench warmer
5.) 25 Aug 2015 19:46:06
I think your delusional, he is prob worth 25 at best, I think you Have still got the hump about paying so much for lukaku which is why you are bumping the price.
To be fare he wants to earn more money and win trophies, neither of which will happen with Everton. You know you are going to sell that's why your flashing the cash all of a sudden.
6.) 25 Aug 2015 19:59:03
The way Stones played lately and if his transfer will be around 50m€ he won't be a bench warmer for sure.
7.) 25 Aug 2015 20:03:51
£50m you're having a laugh buddy. I think £30m plus Moses! You can't say Luiz is the same value as Stones! Two completely different players. What Luiz lacks in quality he makes up for with experience at both club and international level.
8.) 25 Aug 2015 20:22:59
Everton do indeed decide the price however I believe Chelsea would walk away before they pay 50 million.Where would Eveton be then? Mid table at best with a disgruntled centre back.
Common sense dictates they should take 30 mil and buy a few players and hope to push into the top Ten.
9.) 25 Aug 2015 20:46:28
I've said around 50m€. If Moses moves other way it would be Moses+30m€ cash maximum since we rate Moses 20m€.And Battersea go and buy couple of players for 30m£(42m€) if you can. FGS we have paid 30m€(22m£) for Abdul Rahman.
Yes, players are overrated but that's the market nowadays.
10.) 25 Aug 2015 21:00:55
It's pretty clear that you're already spending the Stones money. I'd wait until you have and then lowball you. Your chairman would either have to accept or face having to actually spend his own money.
11.) 25 Aug 2015 21:15:41
Anti-Bot We are shopping at a completely different level to Everton. I would have thought that was. obvious.
12.) 25 Aug 2015 22:49:47
I thought we payed 17.7m£ for Rahman
13.) 26 Aug 2015 00:36:15
Antibot, on one hand you say players are worth what a club is willing to pay, and on the other you say the market is inflated. Which is it mate?
Also, can an Ed confirm he isn't Harry. Really starting to get suspicious and it wouldn't be the first time he has pretended to be a Chelsea fan.
{Ed018's Note - I don't believe he is Harry, maybe Pinky}
14.) 26 Aug 2015 00:59:02
I know pinky isn't everyones cup of tea, but he did seem slightly more reasonable and coherent than Antibot does. Its possible though.
Hows the podcast coming along Ed018? Looking forward to hearing you take on how we look, in longer than a couple of sentences.
{Ed018's Note - maybe some time next week we will try to get one done}
15.) 26 Aug 2015 01:05:14
Why is antibot even allowed to post on this page. He doesn't talk sense and I'm sure he just says most of it to annoy people.
16.) 26 Aug 2015 02:35:34
Will keep an eye out Ed.
I actually give him credit for continuing to post Eden. He generally talks nonsense, or makes things up which he tries to assert as fact, but he is constantly getting shut down, and it does nothing to deter him.
It's the early signs of a mental person, but at least he is consistent in that.
I think its more frustrating when a poster says 'don't shoot me down'. If you have an opinion, stand by it. Be prepared to be shot down. I don't think if anyone is having a dig, they're doing so with any malice attached. They just see things differently or in Antibots case, think you're abit of a div
17.) 26 Aug 2015 07:53:33
Lol Melbourne you legend! We all welcome opinions mate but antibot, CHN, whoever it is. is rude with other posters & claims to be the Albert Einstein of football & knows everything, it's either he's way or nothing & slams others comments! I concur with what you said about standing by you're opinion but some just say crazy things to get a rise from others & that's wrong
18.) 26 Aug 2015 11:53:32
Market can be inflated.
No comment on your pathetic wich hunt.
Maybe you enforce your opinion on some other posters but it doesn't work with. I will give you a credit if you are right about something but I won't do it otherwise.
19.) 26 Aug 2015 15:50:04
Antibot relax mate. You seem like your struggling to contain some anger ;)
I'll make you a deal. I'll also give you some credit if you're right about something, on all the evidence you present, you may ne waiting a while.
I can assure you I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone (not sure how someone would enforce it?). I really don't mind if people disagree. If you haven't noticed I'm more than happy to debate points, I think people may just find me far more logical than yourself.
20.) 28 Aug 2015 20:53:32
What podcast ed018?
{Ed018's Note - Ed001 has done a few podcasts for the Liverpool page so hopefully soon between myself and Ed08 we will get some podcasts done for this page}
Battersea Boy's banter posts with other poster's replies to Battersea Boy's banter posts
13 Sep 2015 15:59:03
Its obvious that a number of players are "off form" and suffering from a subsequent loss of confidence.
However, I am at a loss to understand how the champions can fall so far so quickly.
What does everyone else think?
Jose stating that he is pleased with performances and not with results. is complete baloney!
We only created one on target effort yesterday.
I am starting to suspect that there is something very wrong going on behind the scenes?
1.) 13 Sep 2015 16:20:34
Not sure about behind the scenes. The trouble is with the supporters getting disalusioned with Jose failing to drop under performing players. I mean ivanovic, fabregas, costa and even possibly hazard.
Also due to our ineffect forward play, would we consider adebayor on a free. Not my normal choice but I think things up front are dire and offers something different
2.) 13 Sep 2015 16:30:53
Jose's body language and comments throughout the Summer were certainly not of a 'happy one'. He continually kept saying the players we have are champions and need to improve to challenge again. Translated that meant 'I'm not getting the boards backing in the market'. The season then starts and after the City game it was plainly obvious that we did need new players and the board reacted by going for Stones, pogba et al. This was to late and hence why we are off the pace. Jose is saying the right things in public by supporting the players but behind the scenes he is very agitated. We must dig in now and stay in touch of the top 4 and ensure qualification to the Champions league KO stage and reinforce in January. Make no mistake about it next weeks games against Tel aviv and Arsenal are huge.
3.) 13 Sep 2015 17:40:57
I hope you speak of Adebayor in jest! That bloke has been trouble wherever he has been, hope the guy goes abroad personally. Think he would be suited to a Turkish team, that way he can get a good wage for playing bog standard football.
{Ed002's Note - Adebayor is not available to join Chelsea.}
4.) 13 Sep 2015 17:49:45
But question is why performances of so many are so poor. Makes some of us wonder whether there is a motivational problem among some of the players and why this should be. Mourinho usually so great at motivation, getting players to risk life and limb for cause, yet particularly some of the defenders are looking far too casual, not closing opponents down nearly fast enough. Terry and Zouma also struggling with positioning, suppose they haven't had too many games together.
But is it me or doesn't JM himself look out of sorts, even depressed! Body language pretty negative, far from the Happy One.
Anyway, we've got to get some results this week. win against Arsenal could well get us going again in EPL, and nothing short of victor v Maccabi Tel-Aviv would be acceptable.
5.) 13 Sep 2015 19:27:29
Performances under mourinho have mainly always been poor. Results good but performances poor if that makes sense. Most of the time our defence has been solid so we only needed one or two goals but poor defensive performances highlight the attacking problems we are having. A win v the arsenal would be huge and could hopefully turn around our poor form.
6.) 13 Sep 2015 21:01:33
Interesting comments by Martin Samuel on Sky's journalist forum today. He thinks JM's the man for the job but feels he laid out what he needed to improve the squad and was let down. He commented that as clever as they were with their business of loaning out players for fees, it is getting in the way of day to day business. Worth listening to and he said Chelsea had stagnated when everyone else had upped their game.
7.) 13 Sep 2015 23:41:24
I fail to understand what any of the above has to do with the fact that Jose keeps starting a player in Ivan that is costing us results/points. Even if Fab and Hazard were at their best to start the season, and we'd signed Griezman and Stones, at best we'd be drawing some of these matches because we are leaking goals on the right side of our defence due primarily to one player. I'm putting this 100% on Jose until he plays Caesar at rb and plays Rahman or anyone else he wants to replace Ivan with along with not playing Fab at dm in the 4-2-3-1 and the results are the same. That's the only time I will even consider the possibility that the answers are not in our current sqaud because how in the world can Jose expect a different result when he keeps doing the same thing.
8.) 14 Sep 2015 09:17:04
Jose commands the respect and loyalty of his players and in return they get his loyalty. Unfortunately what I feel has happened is that(at this point in time)loyalty has overtaken pragmatism. Terry (a legend, whether you like him or not)is getting(got) to the "use by" date, Ivanovich the same at right back.
Personally I'd love to see Ivanovich play his true position of CB(in place of Terry)alongside Zouma, then we could play a higher line. I keep reading/hearing how Jose is/has never been more than 3 seasons at a club, so if he wants to(and I hope he does at ours) have a legacy at a club he needs also to adapt and learn to make the harsh decisions re moving players on, or dropping them if their form dictates.
I love Jose, I think he could/can be our Sir Alex for years to come if he is willing to adapt his own mindset in regards to the players. It's about money to the players in the end, it is what buys the loyalty (ala Mikel who could be a star elsewhere but is happy to sit on a bench for a larger pay packet and who is actually not good/hungry enough to be at Chelsea).
Ed 002 has stated on many occasions that players are "transient employees". Maybe this is the thing Jose needs to learn and adapt to moving forward as I feel Jose's loyalty and the players loyalty are not in the same place at the present time.
Sorry, a rather long rant but the players who knew when to go(Zola, Makalele, Lampard to name 3)will always be remembered as true legends and with fondness and appreciation for their efforts for our club without trying to milk the cow past their use by date.
9.) 14 Sep 2015 09:49:28
Kiwi Pete, I have to disagree on a few points. Mourinho is certainly ruthless enough - just look at the example of Casillas at Real. Also, playing Ivan at CB would leave us in the same place, of not being able to play a high line because of Ivan's lack of pace.
10.) 15 Sep 2015 03:10:07
Good shout Kiwi and I agree with Mrs Costa that Jose is ruthless enough when he wants to be (Courtois and Chech another example) which is why I hold him 100% responsible for what's happening. I do agree with Kiwi that Ivan can play high line cb because he has more pace than Terry and Cahill although I wouldn't want to see him there now in his current form.
11.) 15 Sep 2015 09:19:55
Good point Bluelab, a bit of time on the bench may reignite his desire to "perform" for the team. As per my post above Ivan is a great CB I feel but certainly not an EPL RB the way the game is played these days.
01 Sep 2015 18:36:18
It could be worse, you could support Arsenal!
They haven't signed one outfield player this window.
01 Sep 2015 12:35:48
If we are looking at a possible 2 to 3 players today . I would have thought one could possibly be cover at Fullback?
28 Aug 2015 13:27:49
Most of the Tabloids have reported that Stones has been targeted by disgruntled Everton supports at his home in Widnes, Cheshire.
He is said to be living in a hotel as a result to avoid the problems.
What a bunch of morons, he is an employee who has indicated he would like to further his career elsewhere. Whilst I appreciate this has upset Everton fans, the boy is not a slave and his treatment by them is unacceptable.
1.) 28 Aug 2015 15:02:53
I believe the Everton fans have taken things too far. If you are offered the opportunity to do the same work at a better and bigger environment with your salary been doubled or trippled, will you reject it? They need to have a reality check and come to terms that football is mainly a source of living for most now with a short span of 12-16yrs if not everyone will stay in their backyard and play the game they all claim to love. #FREE STONES
2.) 28 Aug 2015 21:10:26
More proof that every club has a couple of idiotic fans. Morons.
27 Aug 2015 19:10:19
Bill Kenwright said in a statement on the club's official website: "Everton Football Club has rejected a transfer request from John Stones.
"Since the start of the transfer window, we have resolutely turned down offers from another Premier League football club for our player.
"John is not for sale and he will remain a highly valued member of our first team squad."
Battersea Boy's rumour replies
05 Sep 2015 19:05:29
Thanks Ed, as you say the detail does not really matter anyway.
01 Sep 2015 12:15:45
ED0018 did a fantastic job while Ed002 he was away!
I just hope everyone stops asking Ed002 for clarity when he has already explained issues time after time. It is what it is!
harassing Ed002 isn't going to ensure we get Pogba
its just going to drive him away again.
{Ed018's Note - exactly, I'm sure he will provide an update if something happens through out the day. No need to send in 50 questions about Pogba}
31 Aug 2015 20:06:53
I am trying not to build up any sort of expectation with regards Pogba. What a lift it would be to us all though .
27 Aug 2015 19:19:17
Varane is an an attractive alternative if its possible.
The potential but very difficult Pogba deal would be the one that would transform our team in my opinion.
27 Aug 2015 18:51:03
Has been a good squad player I suppose but how is RLC going to get playing time if Mikel is on the bench. I would like to see John Obi go personally.
Battersea Boy's banter replies
30 Dec 2015 18:33:42
It would be good to go through at least one transfer window without pissing Ed002 off. Please use the search function you blue boys.
24 Oct 2015 17:01:21
Troubling, in fact its all troubling.
We have had a player sent off and our manager and his assistant sent to the stands.
03 Oct 2015 21:44:15
Agree Ed , we will bounce back.
03 Oct 2015 21:32:42
The modern glory hunting fans who frequent this forum are sadly very representative of modern spoiled fans in general.
I was particularly sad to see Melbourne leave the forum again because of all the negativity the other day.
If you support a team , you do this through thick and thin, no matter what.Supporting Chelsea is is in my DNA and I will never turn my back on them or the most successful manager we have ever had.Champions last year how soon you all forget. OK we have had the worst start for 37 years but this is no time to sack the manager.
{Ed018's Note - I don't think the majority of the people who post here are gonna stop supporting the club but obviously when the results and performances are not going well its going to lead to some negativity. Me personally I for the life of me can't figure out how the same team that won the league last season has started like this. I'm starting to think it's just a fluke thing and in a few months we will all see the Chelsea we know and we will be further up the table pushing for the top 4. I think to do that though there needs to be some changes but the manager shouldn't be one of them}
03 Oct 2015 20:57:15
I have been a fan since I was 5 ,also since 1970 would you believe?
I agree with the above fellow old timers.