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13 Sep 2020 09:47:59
Just in case anyone's unsure
Kante >>>>>>>>>> rice.

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13 Sep 2020 10:45:09
Nobody said he is better than Kante. Stop it with this nonsense.

13 Sep 2020 12:24:46
There’s been some who’ve said about selling kante and getting rice in, that’s nonsense.

13 Sep 2020 12:26:33
Kante is 29 Rice is 21 and can cover two positions CB and DM.
The sale of Barkley and one CB if neccessary other than Kurt and the deal is mostly funded.

13 Sep 2020 12:46:37
No issue with rice just when it was talk of selling kante to bring him in.

13 Sep 2020 13:16:39
Imo CFC do need another dm to either play with orq also deputise Kante. However there are some options out there and Rice should NOT be the best choice. I noticed the nationality bias for people rooting for Rice. Their points are not for football reasons. I would take Ndidi over Rice any day. I'm sure Ndidi will be cheaper also.
Ashk121 and other campaigners for Rice should remove the biased tinted glasses and to never again compare Rice to Kante. Like I always say, quality over nationality quota as only quality can guarantee you success.

{Ed001's Note - is it nationality or because he is a Chelsea fan who wants to join?}

13 Sep 2020 13:43:58
It’s a mix of being young English and best friends with Mount, his a good player and would be really good BESIDE kante, it’s just the price, hyped up
And a good performance is over hyped same as a bad one, we’ve spent a lot, for the money it would take surely look to auoar or the Brazilian who plays alongside him fro Lyon, I won’t attempt to spell his name, I think that’s my issues and same I had with chillwell, buying English and from a rival team the money seems well well over the top, which as the selling club why sell for less than you can,

13 Sep 2020 13:52:22
Comparing Rice to Kante is actually quite bizarre. I do feel Rice gets preferential treatment by the media because his a young English player coming through the ranks. That West Ham team is decent and should never have been near the relegation zone last year and don't say Rice plays in an awful team because that's not true either.

13 Sep 2020 15:53:27
Ed Imo I doubt if being a fan of the club or even having pals in the squad is now a superior factor in chosing targets to quality on the pitch. There are lots players who had wanted to join 'their club" but never happened because the club did not see enough qualities in them.
My point is that we should always look to bring in players based on their abilities and not ties to the club or other non football reasons. My interest is in the success of the club and only the best can guarantee that. Besides it always cost a premium for English players even when there are other better options. Any player that can make us win and achieve success will be priority and not nationality.
However do you think there are no other better and cheaper options even in the EPL than Rice?

13 Sep 2020 15:59:05
Apearances
Rice 38
Kova 31

Goals
Rice 1
Kova 1

Assists
Rice 3
Kova 3

Tackles and success
Rice 116 (52%)
Kova 63 (60%)

Interceptions
Rice 77
Kova 22

Recoveries
Rice 213
Kova 174

Clearances
Rice 51
Kova 16

Duels Won
Rice 223
Kova 186

Aerial Battles Won
Rice 223
Kova 8

Crosses and accuracy
Rice 28 (39%)
Kova 8 (13%)

Accurate long balls
Rice 128
Kova 93
The relevance is that both players were the pick of the fans at the respective clubs.
Bear in mind Rice is only 21yo.

13 Sep 2020 16:35:36
Where are the short passes, passes in final 3rd, ball carries, dribbles?
I agree 100% those stats are fantastic but more so for a defender.

Also where is his experience of playing for a massive club and champions league?

Let's also not forget for 90% of the season teams are going to put 10men behind the ball and Rice is nowhere near the answer for breaking those defences down.

There are a few on here that seem to think we're still playing the same game as 2005. The games moved on massively.

13 Sep 2020 17:19:16
The point of the stats and feel free to find others that paint Rice in the way that others are, is to highlight that he isn't an average 21yo.
If Ziyech Pulisic CHO Havertz Werner RLC Barkley plus two attacking fullbacks can't create enough opportunities we have a serious problem.
I fact the real problem will be having players in midfield willing and capable of being defensively disciplined.

13 Sep 2020 17:19:53
👏 "Let's also not forget for 90% of the season teams are going to put 10men behind the ball and Rice is nowhere near the answer for breaking those defences down"

No need to say anymore.

13 Sep 2020 17:26:36
Kovacic is very good defensively.

13 Sep 2020 18:57:28
Kovecic isn’t the man v ten men behind the ball along with Jorginho, but I’m sure havertz ziyech werner Mount Tammy Cho will be.

13 Sep 2020 20:48:36
Let me sum this up simply for everyone lads.

Rice can play in 2 positions CB and DM

BUT

Kante is player who plays in 2 positions at the same time as he is literally everywhere. Just listen what other players speak about Kante and you will realise that one is world class player and the other is English lad with Talent who may or not may be a superstar one day.

13 Sep 2020 20:59:53
A lot of people talk about players on here like they are playing footy manager.

Of course nationality and friendships at the club make a difference, players are human beings! As an English speaker, who knows the club and the league, Rice will hit the ground running faster than many of the names being floated around who play in lesser leagues.
We don't need him to be creative (not been our problem at all) we need him to break down play, shout at the others to get in position then give it to one of the many creative players we have. I think he'd be great at exactly that. And fir the record I've never ompared him to Kante!

14 Sep 2020 09:01:29
I disagree that he should join just because he's English and have friends in the team. Drinkwater, Barkley come to mind. I don't believe you guys want to around 80m just to unite Rice with his English friends even when we get other superior options for far less. Rice is not what we need and we shouldn't give in to all these bias and sentiments.





 

 

 
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