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30 Jan 2025 10:33:51
All being well I will be going to match against the happy hammers on Monday evening. I do not expect us to get a result for lots of reasons including our loss of confidence and the return of Potter. Obviously I hope I'm wrong.

If I am horribly right, then the angry noise from the fans will be deafening. There initial anger will directed at the manager, certain players and the SD's and finally the owners.

My experience tells me that a percentage of blame should almost certainly be aimed at all of parties I have mentioned.

Of course we may well thump the hammers and this subject will go away until we drop points against another team. I

I have been a supporter of our club for over sixty years and there been a few occasions when the fans in my opinion have almost felt detached from the club they support. Let me make this clear I am only making this judgment based on conversations I have had with a small number of friends who are Chelsea fans and mainly ST holders, virtually all of them feel a sense of detachment they have never felt before.

I have passed these feelings onto a FAB member and I await a reply. I also put forward some suggestions from my from group of group of friends, the main one the clubs poor communication to the fans and poor use of the FAB.

If there any of you who have similar feelings about our club can I please urge you to express those feelings to a member of the FAB board via the communication link on the CFC site.

Sorry for the rant but I am concerned about my club and I have this horrible feeling it's losing the last bits of its identity.!

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30 Jan 2025 13:10:42
I think some of us have certainly been feeling a bit disillusioned Tom because of sense of lack of really wise football heads at the controls of our club at any of the levels mentioned being brought to fore again with recent dip in form and transfer business on last window and ( possibly lack of cos difficult but. ) in this.

30 Jan 2025 13:19:15
And though Poch my not first choice to. manage us last season I worried when he was parted with having finally begun to get a winning team together that needed retention of some plus some additions in those key areas we know only too well. Also the sense that new regime doesn't like a manager having big say in transfer business although he is the one who really should know the players who work and others who might fit in to make things work yet better.

30 Jan 2025 13:25:01
And finally it has never been harder for a non season ticket holder member to get a tick to an EPL game except at an exorbitant Westview price tag.

30 Jan 2025 13:44:35
JBS, your comments and feelings are well made.

Again this is just me making 2+2 probably making five but it seems to me that us fans often create a lot of noise that is directed at the players, manager and in modern times SD’s that noise eventually becomes so loud that the owners of a club restructure a club by sacking the manager and maybe the SD’s. I’m an old cynic but my guess is this is done to deflect all of the blame onto others. I guess an example could be the spuds.

The issue about tickets is interesting. The fact that there is a waiting list for tickets makes us feel that our voice is unimportant but that’s not the case so I urge you express your legitimate complaint to FAB.

30 Jan 2025 13:57:46
Tom

As you are aware, I was against the championship coach that is Maresca.

That is not his fault but that I'd the SD's who are ultimately answerable to the owners.

We did need a complete rebuild. However, I think we went too far with the youngsters and did not include a few top quality experienced heads in the GK, CB, and ST departments.

We are the only premiership club without an FOS sponsor, and that has cost us millions that is down to the commercial department who also report into the owners.

Nothing is happening with the SB project and as Tom has kindly advised nothing further to say however what we need to know is wherefore we in other words are the owners looking to move or develop the Bridge. They just need to advise what are thecholsmd ups, what they are doing to mitigate the issues and what timescales are they looking at.

It seems to me that the issues in the summer will sit with the owners, and I believe they need to have a complete rethink on what is going on below them.

30 Jan 2025 13:57:54
Lots of common ground with both of you. I think the decision to sack Tuchel was a big, big mistake both in sporting terms and fan sentiment and put the new ownership on the back foot practically before they had even walked through the door.

In my opinion, and those of almost all fans I spoke to, Tuchel's bond with the Chelsea fans was on a par with Jose, Lamps and the early Conte days. It's easy to point to the CL win, but imo he really distinguished himself when he was forced into taking on the role of (un) official club spokesperson when Roman was hit with the sanctions. He handled himself with such class in the media and went way above and beyond what could have been expected of him, in the face of some truly hypocritical reporting/ questioning.

Sacking him at the first run of poor results he had really had at Chelsea, only to follow up with Potter, broke the trust with the fans and I don't think it will ever be recovered.

They ripped up the entire squad that won us our last trophy, which was full of academy players that fans naturally relate to the most. Recipe for disaster that shows no sign of changing.

I would also note that some of us on this site were remarking about how there seemed to be a rift between the owners a full year before the reports came out in the media. When you combine this chaos at the top with the frankly horrific sporting aspects, its no wonder people feel detached.

As for the ticketing, I spoke with a member of the ticket office. There are 100,000 members but only 5-6,000 tickets allocated to them. In order to get enough loyalty points to apply for a season ticket the next year, in the first 4 months you need be lucky enough to get a 1 in 200 chance, every game. Additionally, no tickets ever seem to make it to the exchange but show up on stubhub for 5x their value.

30 Jan 2025 14:40:52
When I can go to a match I put my ticket up for sale on the clubs exchange site. I recently gave an example on this site how my ticket was subsequently bought on viagogo for £350. I made a complaint to FAB and they have assured me that they are dealing with this issue. I personally think there should be more STs allocated/ released to members. I expect this will also mean a virtual closed shop for the membership.

I hate playing the blame game and to a certain extent I’m jumping the gun because my usual instinct is to wait until the end of a season before making judgments. My most recent email yo FAB was how I see the clubs poor communication as a problem. I also gave my view that a lot of concerns were historically dealt with at a weekly Q&A on CTV. I’m sure an open dialogue/ Q&A would be beneficial on the CFC website.

If fans think there are issues within our club we hav a complaints procedure in place that should be used. I believe there is a larger percentage of responsibility that rest with the owners, others will see it differently and that’s fine.

Can I also make it clear that for me it’s not just about complaining it’s also about saying well done when the owners/ structure get things right.

30 Jan 2025 14:54:02
RBD

That is exactly why we need a larger stadium, it's the fans that constantly suffer.

There were over 34,000 for the Chelsea, Arsenal women's game.

30 Jan 2025 15:12:19
Thats extremely irritating Tom - they must be able to see who bought it and then listed it on there, they would have to have a membership right?

I'm just now remembering that the last time I did manage to get a ticket via the exchange, the lad I was sat next to was proudly telling me how he was in possession of 5 season tickets collected off of family members who no longer went to the Bridge. He'd renew all of them at the start of the season and then sell the seats to his group of friends, presumably at a mark-up. I have to say it left a sour taste knowing how heavily the odds are stacked against you (see my post above) to get a season ticket to begin with, and then also having to battle against that!

In my opinion the FAB was simply a box-ticking exercise as part of the purchase of the club. There's no real value to it and they have absolutely no sway with the club.

30 Jan 2025 15:49:01
I gusss the value of the FAB will be judged over time but so far they have responded to my emails in a timely fashion.

As far as the on sale of my season ticket to a viagogo customer complaint is concerned I await proof of action but if necessary I will chase it up.

30 Jan 2025 16:04:06
Bill, I’m sorry I didn’t mention your FOS issue. I have no way of knowing what has been on offer as a FOS sponsor to the club. I suspect that the economics of any offer make it preferable to wait until the club believes it is getting best value for its brand. This could mean waiting until the WCC or when other sponsorship deals expire. Without knowing the details it’s difficult to know what has been best I would assume the club/ owners would only do what’s best for its investment.

30 Jan 2025 16:29:55
One would hope so Tom but losing millions during the season and future millions as they seem to no be able to decide on which way the SB project will go does not inspire me with confidence I'm afraid.

30 Jan 2025 16:32:17
As I've said before Bill, I have my doubts about the reality of a new stadium. I just think to rebuild the Bridge will cost so much money that its simply too far off to see a ROI.

As for moving to a new site, the club will need to present a plan to the CPO, which as it stands they have not. Earl's Court has shown no indication that they are willing to discuss Chelsea purchasing the site.

My expectation is that the ownership will renew planning permission to rebuild and then sell the club with that attached.

30 Jan 2025 16:58:41
Bill, I had hoped to demonstrate that the club/ owners may well have been astute by not taking a long term sponsorship deal this season but I now officially give in.

RBD. I have said many times that I don’t see us moving or the stadium being redeveloped in my lifetime. If I was a betting man and I am, I think the club will move with the blessing of the CPO. That move will then remove the reason for the CPO’s existence. The owners will then sell a new stadium/ club and the Stamford Bridge site for a lot of money. The new owner will be Romans son.

That’s what guessing and a wild imagination can do to an d man.

30 Jan 2025 17:34:39
I too feel disconnected to the club. When RA was the owner, if things were going wrong you knew they would be fixed the next season. The hierarchy of the club is bloated with useless people with grandiose titles. The coach is well down the pecking order ; see any top class coach wanting to come to this circus. The FOS sponsor issue is a clear failure by the commercial department; I don’t buy the waiting for the WCC, it has been known for a long time that Chelsea would be taking part: so what are they waiting for?
However, I don’t blame the new owners for the stadium issue: this has always been problematical well before they took over. The only solution is to move out but that in itself is difficult: finding a site which would be acceptable to the CPO would be the first hurdle. My understanding is that Earls Court is a no-goer. Also, getting planning permission to rebuild at SB would not be easy: things have changed since it was originally granted. There would likely to be a lot of opposition and therefore could take years- so don’t hold your breath.

30 Jan 2025 18:16:28
Jimbo, this is how understand the FOS sponsor issue. The club expects a premium for being in the WCC. The club has an issue with two potential sponsors who are both willing to pay a fee that is exceptable to the club, this would be a five year deal. They problem is they both, understandably, want sole sponsorship rights for there industry with CFC. We already have a sponsor whose deal runs out with the club this June.

This could change if the current sponsor agrees, for a fee, to cancel the remainder of his contract with CFC.

The decisions that has been taken apparently makes economic sense.

I have no way of knowing if this is accurate but that’s what I was told and it sort of makes sense but I’m not an accountant or responsible for the clubs commercial decisions but it’s hard to imagine the club not wanting what’s best for its own investment.

30 Jan 2025 19:05:44
Tom, as you say you don’t know how accurate it is but we will wait and see if we eventually get a blue chip deal.
I too put my ticket on the Chelsea exchange site when I can’t attend, I will be interested to know how the club respond to your issue.

30 Jan 2025 19:30:31
Jimbo, I will let you know what action the club has taken. My guess is they will just cancel the membership of the person who bought it on behalf of viagogo.

My guess is that agency’s like Viagogo have semi bogus memberships at every club.

31 Jan 2025 10:42:01
Jimbo: 'When RA was the owner, if things were going wrong you knew they would be fixed the next season. ' You've either got some serious rose-tinted glasses on, or your memory ends around 2007.

31 Jan 2025 22:44:52
Our owners have made a complete pansy of the so called rebuild. I will not call it a rebuild when we still require a GK, CB and ST. We've spent over a billion and not near finished.

Half the signings were completely unnecessary, half the players we brought in were worse than players we forced out of the club like signing disasi and tosin over keeping chalobah.

Oh and getting rid of Gallagher was ridiculous. Can we stop pretending it's not because we failed to offer him a half decent contract? Was getting tiresome when some on here were pretending he didn't want to be here.

01 Feb 2025 10:27:26
What is tiresome is when someone doesn’t believe the mighty Ed002 when he said Gallagher was offered a contract. CG was perfectly entitled not to sign that contract and he would have been well aware by not signing it the club would look to sell him.

{Ed001's Note - it was also less than half what the likes of Enzo were on, the club knew he wasn't going to sign it. They were always intending to sell him.}

01 Feb 2025 11:11:08
Ed, I have no idea of the financial terms offered to CG and how they would have compared to other players. CG was not happy with the contract he was offered and if he feels he was being undervalued I don’t blame him for not signing.

The Enzo salary is more of a mistake in my opinion along with a few others that the present and previous owners have to take responsibility for. I much prefer PRP.

I would have liked him to stay but he didn’t and I wish him well at AM.

01 Feb 2025 15:03:45
exactly Tom. Gallagher and chalobah were looked at as pure profit only and that disgusting treatment of players is part of the reason chelsea fans don't feel as drawn to the club.

01 Feb 2025 16:05:39
Did Clearlake not get Chelsea for under “market value” if you will) due to the owner being Russian. Then blow that financial leg up (if you will) on the most ridiculous recruitment strategy. I knew Chelsea were in trouble when the first signing was Sterling.

01 Feb 2025 16:30:13
Standard, your assumption that the treatment of CG, Chalaboa and Chilly is the reason I feel detached from the club is wide of the mark. I have said many times I no longer feel precious about CFC players. If I did I would have been angry about the sale of Tamouri, Tammy, MG, Lamptey, Livermento and many others over the years, not just the academy players that have been sold under the current owners.

Some supporters may well consider the sale of CG and the loan of Chalaboa as a reason to dislike the owners, that’s up to them. It doesn’t bother me.

Do I think the loan of Chalaboa was mistake on player performance grounds then yes but then I’m not a massive fan of Disasi but it looks like he will be leaving in the next few days.

02 Feb 2025 00:59:15
EdW I think we won a few things after 2007. Since the new owners have taken over we have turned into mid- table team and generally made poor signings and appointed bullsh**ters as coaches and employed a plethora of of muppets in positions that are clearly are not up to. I certainly don’t have have rose-tinted glasses.

02 Feb 2025 02:58:32
Chelsea were not in trouble when we signed Sterling or KK. In my opinion it just tried to do to much to quickly and it would appear that the initial advice it received was poor. Of course some people think the owners are still being poorly advised.





 

 

 
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