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22 Jun 2020 00:04:15
does anyone else think rudiger is 1 of the most overated defenders that ever played for the club
Outstanding performance today overall lampard subs spot on well done can't wait til next season with ziyech an werner coming in hope we get a few more glimpses of gilmour by end of season.

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22 Jun 2020 09:51:26
He worried me all game, my biggest worry is we are this far into season and we don’t know our best CB partnership, ed has said we will look to a cb if one leaves and also our preferred options probably not obtainable at the moment, but I also have said that if we kill games of we dominate them calmness will flow through the back 4.

22 Jun 2020 10:00:57
To be honest I think he's awful, 0% defensive tact and questionable technical ability. He does have a great attitude but I think he's had an opportunity to improve tactically and technically and it's not looking good for him going forward. With the exception of Fik I personally think the others are suited to playing a back 5. Verdict still out on Zouma and Andreas for me but right now I see Toni as much of a liability as Luiz was.

22 Jun 2020 12:05:38
He needs to go. Ed001 has previously said he is a headless chicken. Proved the very point very much yesterday. I can understand Christensen lapse in concentration. But rudiger has flaws all through his game right from concentration, reading the game, passing and tracking. Would be nice if we went for Diego Carlos from Sevilla. Level headed CB.

Also ed001 what's your take on Sergio regullion as a lb?

{Ed001's Note - decent enough but nothing outstanding and a bit weak defensively.}

22 Jun 2020 12:25:15
I’ve never seen anyone pass a ball as badly as Rudiger did yesterday. Every pass was being clipped to the full back but was completely overhit. I don’t know what Tomori did to get pushed out of the team, he’s obviously still young so can make the odd mistake but his pace for recovery and overall play impressed me at the start of the season.

{Ed001's Note - isn't Tomori suspended at the moment?}

22 Jun 2020 12:58:44
When Tomori was taken out of the first team he was making a few mistakes. Whilst giving youth a chance the coaching team have also shown that, if a player is out of form, they're happy to pull them out of the team and concentrate on working with them on the training ground.

To my mind Tomori has the highest potential out of all our defenders. I believe we should be looking for a long term partner for him. Right now I think both him and Christensen need a calming, experienced defender to play alongside - Rudiger certainly isn't that.

22 Jun 2020 13:15:50
Tomori apparently has a knock. Think Lampard said he'd be out for up to 10 days or so.

22 Jun 2020 13:30:10
I think Rudiger can be phenomenal if paired with a defender like John Terry, Van Dijk or Koulibaly; a strong leader next to him whether in the form of another top Central defender or a manager that micro-manages very well will do him a lot of good. Personally, I think he's above average though.

22 Jun 2020 14:20:24
Rudiger isn’t good but Christensen is no better either just because he’s better on the ball he’s nowhere near aggressive enough for a CB in the premier league I’d be happy to see both sold and a new quality CB brought in. Zouma is by far our best defender right now when it comes to defending. He’s not as poor on the ball as people make out either just looks awkward.

Not a fan of Koulibaly I’d go for a young CB who can already command his defence someone like Ruben Dias or Milenkovic.

Gimenez would be perfect from Atletico but his injuries worries me.

22 Jun 2020 14:56:20
I think it's unfair that Rudiger takes all the criticism. Christensen, Zouma and Tomori are no better and they have all been prone to making clumsy mistakes. There is no cohesion between any CB combination which lacks leadership.

22 Jun 2020 15:26:39
Agree Shak but I think Zouma is under rated and Tomori just had a rough patch but he has big potential. Didn’t see anyone get past him 1v1 he’s a little tank.

22 Jun 2020 16:39:25
The best defenders IMO have a built in instinct. They seem th naturally be in the correct position. JT was the master!

22 Jun 2020 17:03:32
I think the fellas you mention sorts the problem out - Gimenez.



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