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08 Sep 2024 09:05:54
Hi Ed002,

You mentioned in the tread regarding TB and Clearlake that there was misinformation written by us who participate on the Chelsea site.

I was just wondering if you could advise us where we went wrong.

That way we won't keep compounding the issue.

Many thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - It is not worth explaining things in detail on this page.}

08 Sep 2024 11:15:02
Fair enough ED.

I was just hoping we could cut down erroneous postings, even it's from me.

The problem is we all have are own different takes on subjects which leads to more Chinese whispers as we as Dan's really do not have a clue what is going on with our club. That been said, we are no where near the only club with this problem.

09 Sep 2024 04:25:36
Unfortunately all we can talk about is what is reported by credible sources. It's obvious we don't get accurate information all the time but this website would be very quiet if we didn't talk about any of the reports.

I understand that's frustrating for ed2 as a chelsea fan but I don't know what the alternative is.

09 Sep 2024 10:05:09
I suppose the answer is for the club to be transparent with what goes on but to be fair, no club ever is, it not just us but we seem to be in the headlines on a daily basis.

Some would say any kind of publicity is good as it keeps the club in the spotlight, although it does not seem to have helped us find a front of shirt sponsor as of yet.

09 Sep 2024 14:09:52
Bill, I’m still not sure what’s going on but my experience of a boardroom split tells me that both sides will have there favourite media outlet and could brief that outlet for there own ends.

Let me make it clear, that doesn’t mean that one side is wrong or telling fibs. It’s just what happens. I guess what I’m saying is that any transparency should be taken with a pinch of salt.

09 Sep 2024 16:39:02
You are probably right Tom, I just hope that whatever the outcome, it is a quick resolution otherwise as a club, we will be in limbo.

What will be interesting is what happens to Maresca if TB takes full control bearing in mind he did not want Poch to go.

06 Sep 2024 18:38:36
Nothing worse than international break when season has just kicked off.

03 Sep 2024 12:06:13
Olay lads international friendlies is upon us. Bit of fun. Do we fans think chelsea have improved the squad from last year? Silva, chalobah, Gallagher broja sterling, petrovic, and others out.

Neto, felix, guiu, sancho, viega, tosin, Jorgensen in.

Not trying to be a doomer but for me, it's a worse squad this year. Losing Gallagher will affect us a lot as will chalobah/ Silva.

Thoughts?

03 Sep 2024 16:43:37
Standard it’s difficult to say if the players we have brought in are an improvement on those who left at this early stage but I doubt it, However, we clearly haven’t strengthened the squad in areas that needed attention instead we have made signings that were unnecessary. As I said on numerous occasions we needed a top class experienced CB, a striker and a top class goalkeeper.

03 Sep 2024 21:51:02
Silva was brilliant but at some stage he was going to leave. I have no idea how Tosin will work out long term but I think he played well in the only game I’ve seen him play for us and in my opinion was unlucky not to start in front of Fofana for the next premiership game.

Chalaboa I think is better than Disasi. Pleased TC has only gone out on loan.

I like the look of Viega and sadly I can see why he is preferred over Chilly. The other thing about him is he can play in three positions.

Sterling hasn’t hit the heights of his City days with us but I can see him doing well at gooner land. I think Sancho will play more prem games than Mudryk.

I liked Petrovic has a stopper but he wasn’t very reassuring with the ball at his feet. I haven’t seen enough of Jorgensen to make a decision but I think Ed02 said he is highly regarded. I would have started him as our No1. As an aside congratulations to Sanchez for getting called up again for Spain.

Neto in my opinion and su to him staying fit will become a fan’s favourite. The question is what position will our manager play him?

Broja sadly bad inpbut I was never a massive fan I think Guiu looks useful and will offer US more than Broja.

I have concerns about BB, Disasi, Mudryk and BB. Also as much as I think KDH is underrated I’m not sure he was needed.

04 Sep 2024 00:44:57
So seems like you don't think we've improved?

04 Sep 2024 04:11:57
I would like to think so but I’m never quick to judge players i have not seen a lot of. I will have a clearer view come the end of the season.

04 Sep 2024 08:15:14
I'm sorry, but I don't think Broja was ever chelsea quality!

04 Sep 2024 09:26:32
In fairness Kiwi, we have never really seen Broja get a consistent run out in the first team, mainly due to injuries.

I havexa feeling he will be back with us at the end of the season.

04 Sep 2024 10:40:20
How can we seriously answer that question after 3 games
We will have to wait for at least 30 more games to see if we have improved on last season with our new squad.

04 Sep 2024 11:10:39
Gola, you have to remember we had at least one poster calling for our latest to be sacked while on our pre season tour.

04 Sep 2024 13:18:08
It's a shame that we don't have the same squad as last season, that way we could compare Maresca with Poch.

At the moment we are 1 point down on the city game, 3 points up on the wolves game and 2 points down on the palace game therefore after just 3 games I know, we are on par with last season.

04 Sep 2024 15:56:53
Bill. I will start with a points target of 76ers (2pts per game) but this season I have set a target points spread of 66pts-76pts.

04 Sep 2024 16:20:38
Hopefully Tom but I think that might be a little optimistic.

06 Sep 2024 07:40:23
Unlike most of you above, I think our squad is improved from last year. I think Slonina and Pender are the new goalkeeping duo after this year, Levi and Fofana are the preferred c/ b pairing for premiership (they are improving every start) I think/ feel this pairing will be impenetrable as the season goes on. Tosin, BB and Disasi for cups and Conference.
In midfield, with Nkuku and Felix providing an option we are taking the option away from Palmer being our only outlet in midfield.

02 Sep 2024 18:25:35
I don't like the idea of experienced professional footballer without clubs. So I'm a bit surprised and slightly disappointed that Chilly hasn't got picked up a club he will get lots of game time for this season. I honestly hope his situation changes for the better.

Osimhen's situation is slightly different because it would appear he had plenty of suitors. Apparently we made at least seven separate proposals to him and his agent and even dispatched John Obi to Naples in an attempt to persuade him. As is his choice him and his advisors turned them all down including a mega deal from Saudi. Of course I have no idea how much of this is true.
Anyway, he is now apparently going out on a season long loan something his agent said would NEVER happen. I'm not sure Osimhen and his advisors have played a very clever hand. Maybe that ship has permanently sailed.

02 Sep 2024 21:10:16
Tom, not really surprised Chilwell hasn’t been picked up due to his wages and injury history. Don’t worry about him though he has spent most of two seasons not playing and pocketing £ 200K a week; he is used of it.

02 Sep 2024 21:20:15
Tom, the Osimhen was always going to be difficult particularly the wages. He had his chance to join us an I think we should move on and forget about him- I have.

03 Sep 2024 06:21:35
I personally couldn’t care less about Chillys wages. I would just like him to find a club and move on with his footballing life.

03 Sep 2024 06:23:30
I would just like Chilly to move on with his footballing life.

03 Sep 2024 08:33:23
Tom, his wages are one the issues preventing him from moving on.

03 Sep 2024 08:44:39
It’s just me caring about a guy who has been told he is not in a managers plans. For that reason I would like him to find a way of playing football this season. His wages are irrelevant to how I feel about him as a person.

03 Sep 2024 11:56:00
Tom, his wages may not be relevant to you but they might be to him. He is a grown up, he has lawyers, advisers and an agent. Perhaps he is happy to sit it out and hope for a change of coach. Personally, I’m not going to lose any sleep.

03 Sep 2024 21:33:25
A good mate of mine working for a top company and getting very well paid gets told that the company is moving in a different direction and his services went longer needed. All his life he was considered to be a high flyer within his industry.

In his mind everyone now looked at him as a failure. Two weeks later he took his own life leaving a distraught young family and friends who just couldn’t and can’t understand the how and why!

I have been in a very dark place on many occasions and maybe that’s why I get concerned.

03 Sep 2024 22:16:15
I should have added that I am sometimes guilty of forgetting they are just blokes who happen to be good at football.

04 Sep 2024 10:45:36
Tom, I am sorry to hear about your mate. Obviously, loss of self-esteem can cause mental health issues and where it is associated with your career can also be coupled with financial anxiety. Yes footballers are human but those at the top clubs are multi- millionaires. True, money doesn’t make you happy but it does protect you against the vicissitudes that life can throw at you. I am sure that the club did it’s best to facilitate a move- he is probably just keeping his options open until the next window.

04 Sep 2024 11:14:17
Jimbo, that is my point. I hope the lad can find a way sooner rather than later to resume his playing career.

I was rather pleased to read one report saying Chilly is training with first team. Him and Chalaboa haven’t said anything that I’ve seen about the managers decision.

{Ed002's Note - Chilwell is close to leaving on loan.}

04 Sep 2024 12:08:38
Tom, I agree that Trev and Chilwell have both shown maturity despite the disappointing decision that was widely publicised: some players go on social media as soon as they feel aggrieved.

04 Sep 2024 12:22:27
Ed02, thanks so much for that update. Playing football can only help him in my opinion.

06 Sep 2024 14:21:50
How much of his wages will be paying ed? Hopefully less than the 50% of sterling's were paying.

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant.}

01 Sep 2024 23:14:12
'One thing is probably clear, three years ago chelsea won the champions league, but now it is not that kind of chelsea so now sometimes if you don't win it is normal' - enzo maresca

Wow, we won the champion league, spent 1.4 billion pounds and now struggle to even play in Europe. It's almost impressive.

02 Sep 2024 03:21:32
I assume this is a reference to a quote from our new manager?

02 Sep 2024 03:35:13
Sorry sent early.

I think that’s an honest assessment of current situation. I’m sure our latest manager will be looking to bring back success. I’m also very sure our owners, for lots of reasons, want success.

I think we are moving in the right direction. Would I like improvement to be quicker, yes. Do I expect us to win the premiership this season, no. Do I expect us to be challenging next season for the premiership, yes.

Just for the record, I will be disappointed if we don’t improve on last seasons 6th place finish.

02 Sep 2024 05:29:59
Thanks Tom. For what it's worth I hope we can put behind whatever hostility there is between us. At the end of the day we both support chelsea and differ on opinions whether the regime has been successful. For me, an astounding failure but one that is slowly progressing and for you I think a successful Oversee of a rebuild which will give us success in the very near future.

For me, anything less than 3rd Is a failure, but 4-6th is acceptable with visible progress.

02 Sep 2024 08:48:30
Standard, this is a commutation site where views are aired by fans who are generally just guessing. Our views and opinions are not definite and we should be able to express those opinions without personal abuse. I have zero “hostility” towards any poster or member of the public. If I think a post is wrong, I will put up my post trying to give a “reason” why I think there “post” is wrong.

Remembering that success is different from club to club.

Let me ask you a question., Arteta will I think have been manager of the gooners for five seasons. If he doesn’t win the premiership this season is he a successful manager or a failure?
Remember, I think it was only in his third season did he get them champions league qualification and they have wi an FA cup.

My guess is supporters of Arsenal would generally think he has been successful but I also think without winning a premiership soon that attitude will change.

Remember, I think we had one poster on this site calling for our current manager to be sacked after some poor pre season results.

Generally it takes time to build a successful team and in our case it was maybe a bit harder with new owners and poor initial advice. Those owners haven’t helped the situation changing managers so often. Constantly changing a manager isn’t just changing one person, ask Sterling and Chilly. It’s almost total upheaval all the time.

The mistakes the owners have made are there for all to but things could be a lot worse. We could have a new ground and about to be relegated. We could have owners who let there ground become a wreck. We could have owners who don’t invest in recruitment of players. Of course we could all support a club that has had an empty trophy cabinet for twenty years.

02 Sep 2024 09:24:10
Tom

I take it you are referring to Spurs, regarding the new stadium etc.

Yes they have a brilliant stadium, are a well run club financially, they will finish above us this season and what's more they have a front of shirt sponser.

Am I happy to write this, God no but is true.

02 Sep 2024 09:50:31
Bill I wasn’t referring to the spuds and a new stadium and probable relegation, that was the toffees.

My spuds reference was having an empty trophy cabinet for twenty seasons.

I think the spuds will flatter to deceive yet again. I have them in 6th-8th this season but I’m please they have a shirt sponsor to put in the trophy cabinet.

02 Sep 2024 12:06:21
Yes tom, arteta at arsenal was a slow build and they've done well with there project. It's apples and oranges to compare them because we've spent over double what they have spent on players and have a good balanced squad. We have a randomly assembled squad of individuals with no identity.

02 Sep 2024 12:34:09
Tom
At least with Everton, they have a new stadium, whereas we have new owners that have been in for two years now without even a peep of one on the horizon.

As regards to Spurs putting a shirt sponser into their trophy cabinet, at least they have a sponser. Two seasons now we have started without one, in anybody language, that is not only poor but is also hurting us financially.

02 Sep 2024 13:03:11
Bill, in my opinion Everton wi have new owners and be in the second division next season.

We had a sponsor last year and my guess is we will have one at some stage this year but the name on the shirt won’t help us win trophies.

02 Sep 2024 13:09:37
Standard and Arsenal didn’t have new owners who have changed the manager at least five times. I don’t think they had much choice about signing players but it could have been done differently in my view.

Generally time is required to bring success but we have been spoilt three times with three different managers and now some people just expect it to be instantaneous.

The other point is different people/ fans and clubs have different views on what constitutes success.

02 Sep 2024 15:56:31
Tom

It may not help with trophies, it will assist with players purchase and wages.

02 Sep 2024 17:00:52
The club seemed to have lots more sponsors than they had before and I repeat they did have one last season.
I’m sure a front of shirt sponsor will happen and then our shirt will be spoilt again.

02 Sep 2024 21:36:07
Tom, nothing can spoil the new shirt: it is dreadful, which his surprising given TB’s association with baseball. Their teams kits are always traditional and historical. Whoever signed that off should be sacked. Whatever spin you want to put on it not having a front of shirt sponsor for two seasons at the start of the PL is a poor show.

As for Arteta, he has improved Arsenal but they have won nothing; nobody will remember or care about coming second. Holding him up as as example of success doesn’t impress me.

03 Sep 2024 05:28:12
Jimbo, how could I put a “spin” on facts. We didn’t have a sponson and the start of last season but we did get one eventually and we have got a front of shirt sponsor for the start of this season but personally think we will get one at some stage. Strangely I thought our shirt this season was rubbish but it’s grown on me. I’ve now seen it on supporters at the bridge and it isn’t as horrible as I first thought.

Af far as Arteta is concerned, it was a question about how different people/ fans view supposed success. I certainly wouldn’t be “holding him up as an example of success” but I would say that over his tenure (currently four seasons) he has made the gooners competitive and play some good stuff.

03 Sep 2024 06:26:23
That should obviously read we “ haven’t” got a front iof shirt sponsor for the start of this season.

04 Sep 2024 14:04:41
Tom, the facts are there as to sponsorship; the “spin” is that you suggest that it’s okay not to have sorted it out by now; I disagree. As to he shirts they are even worse when you see them close up.

04 Sep 2024 21:22:51
I don’t recall ever posting or suggesting that it’s ok that we haven’t got a front of shirt sponsor of that it’s ok that it hasn’t been sorted out by now.

What I have said repeatedly is we haven’t got one now but “I personally believe we will get one “at some stage” this season.

04 Sep 2024 22:19:09
I should have also added that my personal belief that we will get a front of shirt sponsor comes from a New York Times article written a couple of weeks ago.

Apparently any sponsor for this season will also be our sponsor for the World Club Championship.

05 Sep 2024 17:51:45
Tom, I’m sure we will get a sponsor but as I said not good that it has been left so late. I heard it’s going to be “Daz” to go with the new shirts. lol. Seriously, anything to partially cover up the first kit will be an improvement.

05 Sep 2024 19:33:04
Yes and that’s all that I have suggested. I personally think we will get a front of shirt sponsor but I also think it will be a one season deal but that’s just me thinking that.

01 Sep 2024 12:44:55
I am pleased that Jackson and the club have agreed a contract extension.

As I've said before, in my opinion he was our most improved player through last season. I hope that improvement continues.!

01 Sep 2024 19:08:53
Titally agree Tom, he ia a, talented youngster, i just wish we han an experiened no.9 to take the pressure off him.

01 Sep 2024 21:17:22
Bill, we can play Guiu in all the cup games at least plus Nkunku has played a striker on numerous occasions.

05 Sep 2024 22:07:12
There was no need to extend Jackson’s contract he was already on a lengthy one. There is nothing wrong with improving contracts based on performance but these long contracts are crazy.

06 Sep 2024 07:34:00
I have no way of knowing why Chelsea are generally giving such long contracts but my guess we be that the club has decided that it protects the value of a player for longer. Also, the offer of a long contract maybe being used as security for the player and a way of selling the concept of a lower base salary.

The introduction of performance related contracts is something that I 100% welcome. I have no idea how the club measures a players successful performance, particularly from positions to positions. I assume there must be an element of subjectivity.

Time will tell if the idea works but I’ve now seen a few other clubs offering longer contracts. So maybe they see some value in the idea.

31 Aug 2024 00:44:40
So we are paying half of sterlings wages for him to contribute to a team competing with us for top 4. What are we seriously doing?

Also, we have burned bridges with multiple players we couldn't sell on very high wages, for them to play for our youth squad (chilwell, 230k, chuk 100k)

Just a nonsensical way to run a football club. Please if im missing something do tell me. I'd love to defend the club but I honestly can't.

31 Aug 2024 03:53:06
I would rather Chuka and Chalaboa stayed within the club and I hope they get some mins. The manager has stated that Chilly is not his type of player, so I can’t see him getting a look in unless there is an emergency.

Some windows are still open I believe. So I guess something could still happen.

31 Aug 2024 04:14:12
I’ve only just noticed Chalaboa on loan to Palace. I’m pleased it’s only a loan as I rate him more than Disasi.

31 Aug 2024 07:59:43
Agreed Tom

Who knows how long Maresca has with us, Chabs under a different coach might still have a future with us.

31 Aug 2024 09:00:53
The only reason Chalobah was loaned rather than sold is that the club won’t have any academy players to sell for 100% profit next summer.

31 Aug 2024 09:35:10
Let’s not count James, George, Colwill and about three more on the fringes.

31 Aug 2024 11:12:33
Let's not Tom, they should be staying with us unless Hames keeps getting injured and then we need to sell him.

31 Aug 2024 11:46:18
I’m not mystic Tom. He may well play the remainder of the season injury free and then I can’t see us wanting to se him unless a top offer comes in that we can’t refuse.

I can’t think about players being injured all season.

31 Aug 2024 14:55:16
Agreed Tom, all I said was that if James has another injury hit season, then wexneed to at least discuss moving him on.

I hope he stays fit because a fit RC is probably right up there with being one of the best RB's in the world never mind the premiership.

31 Aug 2024 15:11:42
Bill, I think he will be sold next season anyway because I think clubs like Real Madrid would love to sign him. Hopefully if it happens it will be on agreeable terms for all concerned.

31 Aug 2024 18:37:26
Tom, I was referring to academy players who had game time; not fringe players. I doubt whether the club would sell Colwill and James but anything is possible. Let’s hope Reece gets over his constant injuries: if he doesn’t this season it’s unlikely he would be a good prospect for other clubs to invest in.

31 Aug 2024 20:53:41
Todays so called fringe players will be tomorrows super stars ?.

31 Aug 2024 21:04:01
Tom, really like who? Very few academy players reach the level of superstar for their clubs. Time and time again we have heard about the next big thing who fades into obscurity. When we were at our best, apart from Terry, we brought in players- that’s the reality.

31 Aug 2024 21:54:15
I did reply but it’s some how got lost.

JT came into the team at about the same time as RA started investing heavily into our academy. For lots of reasons we have said goodbye to far to many academy players. The likes of Maatsen, Gilmore, Tomori, MG, CHO, Tammy, RLC, Mount, Liveramento, Christensen, MG, CG and a few more have all left for one
reason or another.

We now have more youngsters coming through from our academy and a few purchased from a global pool of young talent.

In my opinion it’s rare to find a superstar playing for a club who has come through the whole academy system but we have produced top players before and we will do again. I live in hope that one of our products will become a global superstar but of course there are zero guarantees.

31 Aug 2024 00:36:35
So probably to the surprise of very few, we go into a new season with a severely bloated squad. I could be wrong but I think tom said the owners learnt from early mistakes but can that honestly be argued? It's absolutely rookie in my opinion.

Other than that, I think we have a pretty good team, with the same glaring weaknesses as last year. But we will see how we go after a great performance against wolves.

31 Aug 2024 03:48:20
Nice of you to refer to me and I am honest enough to admit to what I have said.

I was of course making reference to the owners admission to early mistakes as reported by Ed02 and repeated by other news outlets.

The trick is, when you make a mistake, acknowledge it, correct it and learn from it.

Given the focus now seems to be mainly on base salary, it looks to me as if the club have learnt from its earlier mistakes.

31 Aug 2024 05:27:14
But they haven't learnt from the mistakes if we continually make the same mistakes. We again this year, in our 3rd under the new owners, go into the season with an incredibly imbalanced squad and one that is massively bloated with players that have been told they won't see the pitch.

We are literally paying players hundreds of thousands of pounds a week to play in the youth squad.

Not only that, we are now paying sanchos full wages, and half of sterlings wages for a player who was not needed.

It's just poor after poor and the bias is strong to think they're doing a good job.

31 Aug 2024 06:24:07
You use words such as “incredibly” and “massively” to reinforce your opinion but I personally do not see our squad as “incredibly unbalanced” and the manager has talked repeatedly about the size of HIS squad.
It would have been nice to have found a home for a few more players but the window opens again in about four months and some windows are still open. So the carry cost isn’t potentially that huge.

I have no idea about the salary packages of Sancho or Sterling but given how poor Mudryk has been I can see Sancho getting plenty of game time.

The judgment on the owners and recruitment team will be made over time. I will be critical when I think it’s justified and then I will move on and not labour the point for ever and a day.

31 Aug 2024 06:46:05
Sorry, but I should have also said that the last time I looked Chelsea had sold, loaned or released over 25 players so far in this window and it could well end up being over 30 who have left the club by the close.

I wouldn’t have clue if that is above the average amount of leavers and I haven’t got a clue about how many new professional players we have signed in this window.

I personally would have liked the club to have signed and sold different players but I’m just a fan and it’s impossible to make me 100% happy but that also doesn’t make the club definitely wrong. Things in football are very rarely just black and white.

31 Aug 2024 08:10:07
Tom

We have had all window to obtain a no.9 who will convert more of the chances that we missed last year and left us fans frustrated.

Instead they were running around in the last few hours trying to buy a player when he and his camp had already made it abundly clear that they would not take a drop on wages.

As you know, I don't like the recruitment team who I believe are out of their depth and after the wi Dow just hone, I'm even more sure now.

31 Aug 2024 09:38:25
Bill we went out to just please a manager and owner when we signed Lukaku and that ended up well.

In my opinion if you can’t get what you want at the price you want then move on. My guess is they thought it would be a last min trade and hope it would work out in there favour.

I’m happy enough genuwith the players this recruitment team have assembled.

31 Aug 2024 10:56:37
Tom

I cann9t blame the recruitment team gor the Lukaku fiasco however we are now supposed to have a much better team in place therefore I can blame then for not obtaining what should have been our priority all window long, instead we have a team of wingers, some will say that's what city did before Haland however they had a top coach in Pep and top class wingers, we have a poor man's Pep, likewise the same goes for the wingers. Also Pep realised he still needed a no.9.

31 Aug 2024 11:50:05
Bill, we have improved despite several mistakes including poor manager appointments and lots of injuries.

It would be interesting to see how different fans measure success or improvement.

You mentioned Haaland and Pep but how many seasons was Pep manager before they signed him? Was it four five or six?

31 Aug 2024 11:59:08
Just my vocabulary tom. It's obvious it's just my opinion, I don't believe in objectivity.

No smoke without fire, the majority of pundits, fans, and in the know people in football have heavily criticised this chelsea regime for being rookie, and have made poor decision after poor decision. I like that you support chelsea and fail to criticise anything, but that doesn't mean other people cannot.

31 Aug 2024 13:12:46
Standard, that is one of the most over used and untrue sayings in the English vocabulary. There can be “smoke without fire. ”

Standard the vast majority of pundits hate Chelsea and are just out to make headlines. I suggest you only trust good journalists and the Ed’s.

Your comment about me failing to criticise anything about Chelsea is total boll@x but if that's your opinion just stick with it.

I do not present guesses as facts. If I’m guessing I try to remember to just say I’m guessing. It’s not hard.

31 Aug 2024 23:04:18
I take everything said with a pinch of salt and see a few sources. That's how I knew sancho was coming in.

To suggest the negativity around chelsea is because 'pundits hate chelsea' is frankly ridiculous and said by a younger demographic who can't accept when people criticise chelsea. It's what my younger cousin does.

Chelsea have and continue to make poor decisions in the recruitment area.

01 Sep 2024 06:31:02
I’m not sure what age or your example of a younger cousin has to do with anything.

As far. as pundits and Journalists are concerned it’s up to you who you trust and believe to be reasonably accurate. It’s my opinion that a substantial amount of them seek controversy, it’s the only way they can keep a job. I think some refer to them as shock jocks but the real is they just say things with little evidence. Social media has in my opinion has now made the situation far worse.

Chelsea football club along with every other club have made poor decisions in the transfer markets for decades. Our new owners have certainly made some rickets but the majority of players they have signed have quality.

01 Sep 2024 07:25:56
Standard you make me laugh. Your younger cousin must be about 10 as I am guessing your about 24-28 as you have only seen good times at chelsea.

You sound like the young liverpool fans I work with.

We all know your opinion is you don't like the new owners or sporting directors. We have who we have as many older heads have said before it could be worse. We have seen plenty of worse owners.

01 Sep 2024 08:16:27
Js finchy, nothing to do with who i like or don't like. I quite like boehly, but the owners have made terrible decisions. you are correct I have only seen chelsea when they're good and spot on on the age.

But I have no problem with being a bad team but there's no excuse when a billion pounds has been spent.

Tom, were in agreeance there. I do also think we've signed some good players but overall I think it's been poor. Just my opinion.

01 Sep 2024 11:08:42
It's not hard to guess your age to be fair. We/ I've been around a lot longer and understand it takes time to build something.

The reference to the Liverpool fans I work with all remember the good days and the last few years but forget the years between. They seem to think they are entitled to be the best and when they aren't or someone is better then they are cheating or bending the rules.
Although they all forget klopp tapping up.

I like to think I am unbiased.
Do I think the owners have been perfect no I don't. But I know from past experience that it could be worse. Am I happy they are spending millions yes and no. They could not spend a penny and it would be uproar as well. As I have seen in the past with us and with other teams.

Have all the players worked out for us since the new owners come in. No they haven't. But that goes for every owner even roman who as expected we all love but kezmen, mutu, bakayoko, are just a couple of names I can think of in 2 seconds.

The billion pound people keep quoting includes players for the future that are not in the first team. And as quoted future kendry. William they could or could not be 200million pound players in 5 years. That then will be seen as great buisness.

01 Sep 2024 12:39:51
Jsfinchy, love the balanced post mate.

30 Aug 2024 12:17:44
Chelsea are selling Deivid Washington to Strasbourg for 17.6M, a year after signing him for 17m.

I am sorry but that is utterly ridiculous. No wonder straousburg are protesting against the new owners. They have bailed us out there. What are your thoughts Ed1, surely that's not allowed.

{Ed001's Note - it does seem odd that can happen when Man Utd couldn't buy Todibo. But then Man City have been able to swap players to themselves on the cheap for years from their other clubs, so I have no idea what the rules are regarding this any more.}

30 Aug 2024 13:03:56
It's really a shame this happens in football. I'm never a fan of skirting the rules or taking advantage of 'loopholes' it's just very unethical. Just like when we sold our own hotels to ourselves and sold our women's team for inflated amounts.

Shame what footballs become.

{Ed001's Note - isn't that also against UEFA's PSR regs? I agree with you, clubs should just run legitimately within their means. If the owner wants to pump money in, then they should also have to set aside money in an escrow account to match the money they invest in the club. Then, if anything happens or they decide to stop funding the club, that money is then to be used to ensure that the club does not go out of business due to having too high salaries etc.}

30 Aug 2024 13:34:36
I don't know but if there's anything that will get us in trouble I imagine it would be this. It's just silly.

That's not a bad idea. I don't understand what the plan is. They've pumped in a billion dollars on mediocre players. Signing Washington for 17m last year, selling for 17 this year (dubiously) . Signing datro fofana for 15m last year, probably selling the same this year.

Just doesn't make any sense. Quite frankly ridiculous sums for players that aren't that good and then booting players out that are way better than them in the first place.

We've bought kellyman, chukwuemeka and dewsburyhall for a combined 75 m and sold Gallagher for 35. We could have just kept Gallagher and used the other funds on an actual keeper, instead of the 7 we've brought in who are all not good enough.

I really hate being negative honestly, and my favourite chelsea period was our transfer ban year under lampard. All the youth coming through was incredible to see, and what a good position we were in. Although we did win a ucl, we truly blew it imo.

Cheers ed.

{Ed001's Note - it does seem a very bizarre and unworkable transfer system they have. Recruitment just seems to be based on quantity and hope, rather than quality.}

30 Aug 2024 13:40:40
Ed, you are correct a bond or escrow account would take away a lot of what seem like grey areas. If you want to spend more, you have to buy a bigger value bond or put more in your escrow account.

It’s always been a dilemma for me. On the one hand wanting a duty of care and on the other a persons right to spend there money how they chose.

{Ed002's Note - It is a totally different situation to Tobido. The transfer was at the request of the RS Chief Scout who watched him in a PL2 game against Arsenal and then it was negotiated by Bertolucci.}

30 Aug 2024 23:59:44
As ed002 said it’s totally different to Todibo. Utd couldn’t sign him due to both Nice and Utd being in the Europa league together. Strasbourg is not in any European competition so there’s no conflict there. And it seems like the transfer was initiated by Strasbourg and not forced on them so I don’t see an issue at all.

31 Aug 2024 00:34:34
It's not a problem he went to Strasbourg, it's the severely inflated transfer fee. We couldn't find anyone interested in even loaning him but then all of a sudden when we cannot get the sales we required, he's gone for 17m.

31 Aug 2024 04:09:07
You make it sound as if it’s been manipulated. If that is the case (I doubt it) then it will probably be investigated by one of the authorities.

31 Aug 2024 08:12:43
If everything was above board, why was the deal pulled at the 11th hour?

31 Aug 2024 09:40:14
Who those but I’m sure there will be a conspiracy theory in it for some fans, pundits or newspaper.

As I understand it they initiated the approach.

31 Aug 2024 10:59:28
They being us you mean Tom, we are all Blue Co.

There might be conspiracy theories but then if you can't even sell a player to a sister club what else is there apart from maybe a poor recruitment team maybe.

31 Aug 2024 12:00:24
Tom you've said before if we break the rules your response will be 'ho hum' which is your opinion and that's fine. But for me, I don't condone cheating. So if there's anything that's a little bit suspicious I will ask questions. The fact that the Washington deal was pulled tells a lot.

31 Aug 2024 15:08:52
I have already replied to this post but just in case it got lost in translation.

I have probably said “ho hum” in regards to the punishment not the crime itself.

On that score I have made it clear several times that if we are found guilty of any wrongdoing as we were under the RA ownership then we Will deserve a punishment but I will not bleat about that punishment but I will be p@ssed off with the club or any person found to be responsible for any misbehaviour.

31 Aug 2024 15:25:11
Standard, your quotes from my pre posts are just plain incorrect but not surprising when you still deny calling Caicedo a donkey before kicking a ball.

I have said “ if we have broken any rules I expect us to be punished but if that happens I will not bleat about it. ”

Also, I think something along the lines of “if we are found guilty again as we were under RA then we deserve to be punished. ”

I have also said I will be critical of the club or any person who has allowed any rules to be broken.

If we ever get docked points then we deserve it. ho hum.

The Washington deal not happening could be for lots of reasons and for sure one of them could be that both clubs couldn’t be bothered with any fall out of potential investigation but I haven’t got a clue but I can see no reason to blacken clubs or peoples names without evidence.

31 Aug 2024 23:05:51
You seem upset tom. Still don't know what I've done for you to dislike me. I think it's because I don't agree with every move chelsea have made and uou don't like that.

01 Sep 2024 06:47:33
As you like old sayings here is one that might work for you and something my old mum used to say to me. “Think less and your head won’t get full of sh@t. ”

NO Chelsea fan or general football fan is going to like “every move” his or her club make.

I haven’t got a clue if our new investors will be successful owners but I definitely know they are trying to bring success (whatever that means) back to our club.

I haven’t got a clue if the NEW owners have broken any governing bodies rules. If they have, as our owners the club will deserve to be sanctioned. In the same way we were sanctioned under our previous owners tenure.

01 Sep 2024 08:18:01
I also do agree they're trying there best but I think it's also fair to say for the amount spent it's been a very very poor return.

01 Sep 2024 10:16:36
It was never going to be instant success and you only have to look at the likes of City, Arsenal and Liverpool to see that these things take time.

The RA takeover was probably unusual in as much as success was pretty much instant but I can’t think of that happening at any other club.

28 Aug 2024 16:00:40
Victor or Ivan?

Can we go back and sign Duran? Are Chelsea still considering Duran?

Duran is actually the better player and he offers more in terms of puns and dad jokes.

28 Aug 2024 16:28:53
They would probably want Jackson, so it's a no from me.

28 Aug 2024 18:56:33
I have to admit there are so many rumours going around about our club, I'm getting dizzy. I will be glad when the window closes.

27 Aug 2024 21:14:13
Sancho. I hope this is some sort of sick joke being reported by the media. It makes zero sense both from a football and business perspective.

I'm not checking transfer updates until the window is slamed shut. This is a disgusting rumor ???.

27 Aug 2024 22:03:23
It’s just a rumour but why would it be “disgusting? ”.

28 Aug 2024 01:06:23
I think sancho woukd be a quality pick-up if he reduces his wages. Would allow us to loan him out for loan fees and if he has another strong season away on loan, he may just join the first team.

28 Aug 2024 05:46:36
I can see how it could financially benefit both clubs. I can’t see Sancho going out on loan iif it did happen.

28 Aug 2024 08:35:03
There is mo room at the inn so to speak.

28 Aug 2024 09:04:30
Sancho makes no sense whatsoever; overrated, he has been a flop in the PL and where would he fit in? Also, given what has gone on you have to question his attitude. What are they thinking?

28 Aug 2024 09:37:20
Maybe as an alternative to Mudryk. I have zero idea about his attitude, only that he fell out with the Utd manager but he seemed to get on with managers in Germany.

28 Aug 2024 15:31:04
Personally I would keep Mudryk over Sancho all day long and twice on Sundays.

{Ed002's Note - Sancho will not be joining Chelsea.}

28 Aug 2024 17:44:36
Well that question is now resolved. Thanks for the update Ed.

28 Aug 2024 16:28:11
Thank you ED002, that definitely clarifies the situation regarding Sancho to us.