12 May 2025 20:43:20
Maresca got it wrong first half but did well tactically second half to correct it. The feeling amongst most of us was that he is possibly going to be a very good coach once he picks up more experience and that is the same with the players. We all want instant success but the general feeling was that owners have gone down this route and no change will be made going into next season whether we end up in the champions league or europa league. We also thought a 6 point return from Fulham away, Liverpool home and Newcastle away was more than any of us (12 of us) thought would be achieved. A tiny sample but thought I would share.
12 May 2025 21:03:36
Greenaway, my guess is the “instant success” under RA’s ownership was the rarity and it probably spoilt us fans.
I can’t remember another club being able to repeat that level of RA success.
I’m also of the opinion that EM will be our manager at the start of next season. I also can’t see there being a change at SD level either.
I get the amount spent on transfers and the amounts received from transfers has almost been mind blowing. I think is understandable for fans to want more given the investments made on players. I think we are just about moving in the right direction, would I like progress to be quicker? Of course I would but for me it was always likely that success would take time.
12 May 2025 21:04:36
Greenaway I agree with most of that need to keep to a long term strategy have some brilliant young players who will get better i hope the same is true of the coach.
Am a long term Chelsea fan the Roman years will never be repeated generally I would prefer one owner Bohely and one sporting directing for clarity but generally think they are doing a pretty good job bar be too ready to sack managers
looking at my predictions the last 8 games had us beating Ipswich thought we would draw at Arsenal and lose at Fulham think we will beat utd and forest.
12 May 2025 21:27:18
I do agree with this. A lot of credit to the manager and the boys for the second half performance. Shame Jackson let them down. He's done this a few times now.
12 May 2025 22:27:30
Thanks boys for your replies, Tom, you are 100% right, the instant success under Roman was a one off in football terms and spoilt a lot of fans. Seymns2, we all think Todd will be off as he made those early mistakes backing TT with experienced players like Sterling, KK and others and putting them on silly money. Clearlake have turned it around in order to comply with FFP. Standard, we all said the same, he needs to go and we probably make a decent profit on him as well.
12 May 2025 22:37:03
Greenaway, I can’t see us selling Jackson but I can see us signing Sesko.
12 May 2025 22:49:08
Obviously early mistakes were made I don't know the ins and outs of the ownership but Boehly has a background in sports rather than money funds, am ambivalent to Jackson staying or going he will become a good player but if he goes we will need two in I would choose Delap and A. N other haven't seen enough of Sesko to judge either way but would like an experienced forward.
Like the rumours linking us to Huijsen at Bournemouth a Rolls Royce of a footballer the way he carries the football as a CB is fantastic reminds me a little bit of a young Alan Hansen.
13 May 2025 08:34:07
Interesting thread but when when people talk about progress, I see it differently as a need to address the decline of the club. A few seasons ago we were a top club competing at all levels. For the past few seasons we have been in decline primarily because of some terrible signings and very poor manager appointments. As for the ownership, I don’t see any clear direction or strategy and a lack of ambition for the club. Personally, the first thing I would do is get rid of the SDs and Ben Roberts before anymore money is wasted. Whatever happens for the rest of the season I don’t envisage any great improvement unless some drastic changes are made.
13 May 2025 08:39:39
I like Jackson and think he is a good option. Not a starting 9 though. I also cannot see a profit in him at all.
13 May 2025 09:07:46
Firstly there will be no profit if we sell Jackson, clubs will not see him as an out and out no.9.
No surprise, I totally agree with Jimbo in as much as I would like one owner and one SD. I keep reading one person likes Maresca, one doesn't, one wants to movexaway from the Bridge, the other doesn't, one want to continue buying young, the other wants a bot more experience.
Not sure how a club can be run like that.
I see on the Everton site an AI program describe our club as being Chaotic, not a word I want our club to be associated with.
13 May 2025 09:26:17
I can’t see us finding out anytime soon if a sale of Jackson will or won’t make profit as it unlikely to happen. I value him at £65m but who on earth cares on what does it matter how fans value a player. Forwards are in short supply and it would probably depend on how many clubs would want him.
The irony of anything or anyone associated with Everton referring to us a “chaotic” is almost laughable given there recent history.
I think the vast majority of fans would describe our forced sale and takeover as rushed and I personally think allied to some poor advice (as quoted by Ed002) this was a very strange period in our history. After that first season I think things have very gradually calmed down and I also think a period of stability can only help.
13 May 2025 10:11:14
Tom
It was only on their site, it was actually an AI program.
I agree the sale was rushed however we are 3 years into the ownership and are still making the same mistakes.
As I said previously, we need one owner and one SD, too many cools and all that.
13 May 2025 10:36:45
No club would pay £65 million for Jackson. We won’t make a profit on him if he were sold. Personally, if we bring in a proper striker I would give Jackson a chance to play out wide as I am unimpressed with our current crop of wingers.
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13 May 2025 11:39:48
I would agree with Jimbo about playing Jackson out wide with new striker. I would also want that new striker to have real aerial power in the box something we've lacked for several seasons now though Havertz offered more ability in that respect at least than we have right now. Sesko not the answer I think but could we get Osimhen? If not Delay perhaps but would be so good to have thoroughly proven quality experience in that position in place for start of next eason though Delap might get there in time.
13 May 2025 11:51:16
Jimbo, the amount I value Jackson at was a “Joke. ” I have no idea what his value to another club or clubs would be and I don’t care. Who can honestly say with any certainty what a player is worth? FGS one rag at Christmas time had Palmer valued at £160m.
Bill, other takeovers of clubs have taken place over recent years and as far as I can remember the vast majority of them have taken time to show progress. It was always very unlikely in my opinion that the almost instant success of RA would be replicated, although I would also say that the initial mistakes certainly slowed our development down.
13 May 2025 13:36:53
I'm glad the £65m was a joke. I was very concerned for a bit.
13 May 2025 14:44:16
Fans of all clubs tend to value play how they rate them. If you occasionally go onto the scouser or gooner pages you will see fans valuations of there players that to me look totally bonkers.
I personally wouldn’t sell Caicedo for anything less than £175m but then I think he is one of the very best players in his position in Europe but I’m only a humble fan of the club.
13 May 2025 20:38:47
I think transfer values are out of control. Silly money for very average players nowadays. Jackson cost £32 million and would likely fetch £50 million in todays market. Moises is one of the best midfielders in world football and would likely command far more money than we paid for him, possibly £150 million plus. That is the reason clubs are now hoovering up young kids from all over the world with the hope that one or two might make it and the ones that don't will be sold on at cost or even profit. It is the new world and I don't like it but it is what it is.
13 May 2025 21:18:47
RBD, i hope I’m wrong but I think this summer’s window will be totally bonkers.
There are teams that will almost have to invest in a substantial amount of players and then we have the normal attempted upgrades by the rest of the clubs.
One of mates who is a happy hammers fan tells me they need approx 15 players.
13 May 2025 22:24:17
Tom, I think you are right. One of our group thinks the 1 billion spent might now be worth a lot lot more such are the silly transfer fees for bang average players! The premier league is awash with money. I don't like it as I mentioned earlier but these american owners who now dominate the premier league think of money! sad but true.
14 May 2025 10:28:43
Both very true tom and RPD. My main criticism has been with the poor recruitment, stacking of players and poor management but if we are Able to make a profit on the vast majority I will absolutely hold my hands up and say I'm wrong.
I disagree. I think transfer fees will remain pretty steady for a while. The smart clubs are the ones who wait for players to be out of contract or sign players at there release clause (liverpool getting macallister and now frimpong for 30m, great business) .
14 May 2025 17:18:08
Or Real Madrid getting TAA on a free. Or us getting Gusto, Guiu, Veiga and Petrovic for bargains, Tosin on a free and what look like complete snips dotted around other leagues.
These owners have made mistakes and so did our previous owners. My guess is most clubs have bought lots of duds at some stage.
15 May 2025 00:55:12
Always said Tosin was a smart pick-up. I think we will see a lot more 'frees' in the coming years.
15 May 2025 05:45:00
I can see a lot more players contracts being of extended length and players being sold with 2-3 years still to run in those contracts.
The interesting thing for me going forward will be the valuation of players aged 27-29.