13 Jan 2015 21:17:52
Just watching Everton v west ham
Boy am I glad we got rid of lukaku, lazy and the touch of a hammer.
Also if anyone offers us barklay and they want more than ten bob, just say no thanks. Again poor tonight and what I don't like, if its your mistake that loses the ball you chase back. Apparently that thought appeared Alien to him.
13 Jan 2015 21:45:37
Agree with Barkley I said that before and every had a go. So over-rated, needs to stop diving aswell.
Couldn't agree more KingEden. Of course home grown talent is extremely important, with english talent included in that, but sometimes people go over board.
Would people be so keen to get him if he didn't have home grown status? Maybe that's the question - Woudl be still be so excited if he wasnt english. If that's the reason or even factoring into it at all I would rather bring through Loftus-Cheek, Baker, Brown, Ake and Solanke and spend the millions that would be spent on Barkley on other players which will greatly benefit us.
I think there will be a great effort to sign a good home grown keep in the summer, like a proper number 2 to replace cech as he is obviously going to go. Then the third spot could go to Blackman or another youth keeper.
If he is good enough, it doesn't matter his age, his status or where he is from.
And i'm sure I might get some hate from this, and i'm not for once saying Barkley will be a great player, but is he worth the month that would have to be paid? Can anyone truly say the fact he is home grown doesn't factor into the decision?
There are other positions we can focus on this with e.g. as I mentioned, a good english goalkeeper.
If the home grown argument is a factor at all, I would agree with you again KingEden and I would go for Schneiderlin as he has been incredible for a number of years and would fit our team, and would have the home grown bonus.
I guess its just something I haven't seen mentioned much anymore. Hopefully we can just focus on getting players that actually improve the team rather than getting into the home grown english player debate - withing a couple to a few years I would like though think we have quite a few players developed at the club as squad players and in the first team.
Sorry about the rant, can't sleep so I found myself on here lol
I want RlC to make it sooo badly! Love his style of play. I want him in the first team about as much as I want Pogba and Varane. And that says a lot.
It'll be interesting to see what the club does regarding the homegrown rule.
If there's one English player to go for it's John Stones! He's going to be a massive player in the future.
14 Jan 2015 17:11:42
Agree with most on the Barkley and lukaku sentiments. Lukaku thinks he's a far better player than he is. He'll have a run of 5 games where he's on Fire followed by 10 where you didn't know he played. His ability on the ball is awful and all he's good for is finishing moves off. Look at diego who is involved in the buildup to so many of our goals. With Barkley if he was Spanish and not homegrown you would laugh at a price over 25m. Period.
If Barkley is Spanish and homegrown Spanish his price would be between 50-70m£ in Spain. Don't mix apples and oranges. Barkley is English homegrown very talented and he has to cost a fortune.
{Ed002's Note - This is degrading in to nonsense.}
Im not entirely sure what mn was trying to say. I was just trying to raise the point that the interest in Barkley, who will surely be a good player, is ramped up because of him being English and home grown. In some cases I think some of the bigger clubs, or some people when they discuss transfers seem to just go "ok, who is english"
A lot of people seem to always say that in the premier league, you need an english core to be successful. I don't believe this is successful. What I do believe is that it is helpful to have a core come through the youth teams so they understand the club and these players can be from anywhere. Just trying to raise my point and get a discussion going.
Ed002??!!
Georgebest 26 in every league in Europe home grown players are far more expensive than non home grown. That is natural, since major rich clubs are lacking regarding home grown players.For instance Koke would cost much more to any Spanish club than any other foreign club. It is simple as that.
Obviously Ed002 either didn't understood my post or he didn't read it properly.
{Ed002's Note - Your post was palpable nonsense. You are simply making this stuff up.}