23 Jul 2017 18:01:25
Ed001, if you're around. I've got a question about our loans in the PL. Do you think RLC's loan to Palace was a good choice? I don't know what De Boer is like and just curious to know what you think about the fit.
{Ed001's Note - not in the slightest. De Boer does not impress me at all and Palace are not, imo, suited to his style of playing as they have a lot of players all similar. De Boer will not sort out any attitude problem he has, if anything he will be encouraged to saunter around, from what I have seen of De Boer's teams. He needed to be in a relegation battler who would need him to get stuck in and scrap for his future. RLC is a lazy get, that is his problem, he does not put the effort in, so he needs to be in a place where he either does so or gets bombed out and hopefully learns his lesson. Either way he would sink or swim instead of just continuing to float.}
23 Jul 2017 18:42:03
Great shout ed001 that's what he seems to need
He has all the ability just seems like he needs to grab the game/ opportunity he gets with both hands rather than looking so lethargic all the time imo.
{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. He has the ability, I just wish he would realise he needs to put his all in before his chance goes.}
23 Jul 2017 18:54:30
Crap, that doesn't sound good. Being Dutch I was hoping De Boer would be good at developing young players. Guess not, which is a shame.
I disagree about the relegation battlers being a good spot for him though. I think managers facing a relegation fight almost always trust the more experienced players. I'm pretty sure he'd see little time in midfield at a club that is in trouble.
And what do you make of Abraham's fit at Swansea? If they lose Gylfi then I don't see how it's a good place for him. The team around him needs to be able to at least create some chances for him. He will get you goals if you put some good balls in, but without Gylfi I'm struggling to see where the service will come from.
{Ed002's Note - You think that might be a rash generalisation about the Dutch? It is like saying that all Germans look like Joe 90.
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23 Jul 2017 18:59:24
Probably hope taking over from reason with regards to RLC and De Boer, Ed. I want the boy to make it as he's got all the ability in the world. He could become genuinely top class if he applies himself as you don't often see that combination of physicality and technique in a player.
{Ed002's Note - The club would rather have sold Loftus Cheek and kept hold of Chalobah.}
23 Jul 2017 19:03:27
Yeah spot on ed001 if he doesn't we know where he'll end up which would be a real shame.
{Ed001's Note - it would be a waste of a talent.}
23 Jul 2017 19:16:49
Seriously, Ed002? Shame that Conte couldn't convince Chalobah to stay then :- ( I rate him highly as well, and it wouldn't surprise me if we regret selling Chalobah in 2 years' time.
{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Conte per se - it is to do with demands that the club can't, or perhaps won't, commit to.}
23 Jul 2017 19:40:00
I assume those were playing time demands rather than monetary?
{Ed002's Note - Yes. And I can see his point. And I would not be surprised at all to see him work his way in to the England World Cup reckoning with the move.}
23 Jul 2017 20:20:06
Any truth in a buy-back clause for Chalobah Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - Yes there is one.}
23 Jul 2017 20:26:43
I hope chabollah really kicks on this season, as he really has the potential to become a quality player.
Also do we havs a buyback clause in his contract?
{Ed002's Note - Yes.}
23 Jul 2017 20:36:02
Totally agree about RLC, when everyone was shouting about him a year or two ago I think it went to his head. I don't think he realises you have to go and get it, it won't come to you. IE Jeremy Boga. Now that's how you take your chance. I saw palace wba, RLC was conspicuous by his absence. I thought that was the time to show his ability surrounded by players he should be better than. However he was very average in fact that's bigging up his performance.
Let's sell him then we can stop wasting conversations on him and what he could do.
23 Jul 2017 23:16:59
I first started raving about him after a post season friendly against City when Rafa was our manager when he bossed the match and had yaya in his back pocket. Since then he hasn't progressed as I and many others had hoped but we shouldn't give up on him yet, clearly has the talent but he has to work for the rewards. Hope he takes his chance as the talent is clearly there.
24 Jul 2017 07:32:57
About the World Cup spot for Chalobah next summer, I wouldn't be surprised either. Southgate really rates him very highly. If he has a good season at Watford he'll be going for sure :-) thanks for all the insight in this thread, Ed. The buyback clause makes me happy.
24 Jul 2017 08:07:25
Great to hear that there is a buy back clause.